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babylonsister (170,555 posts)
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White House announces push to convert empty commercial buildings to housing
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White House announces push to convert empty commercial buildings to housing (Original Post)
babylonsister
11 hrs ago
OP
This is great!
AntivaxHunters
11 hrs ago
#1
I love this idea, hope it gets off the ground
617Blue
11 hrs ago
#2
Excellent idea
underpants
11 hrs ago
#3
My wife said this many years ago.
OLDMDDEM
11 hrs ago
#4
As long as private equity is banned from it.
LuvLoogie
10 hrs ago
#5
+1
leftstreet
9 hrs ago
#9
Some Difficulties
Deep State Witch
9 hrs ago
#6
True, but the building is there and
mtngirl47
9 hrs ago
#8
Not saying that it's not
Deep State Witch
8 hrs ago
#13
Dormitories with shared bathrooms
mainer
9 hrs ago
#10
even then.
maxsolomon
7 hrs ago
#17
This is very good.
William769
9 hrs ago
#7
Excellent!
niyad
8 hrs ago
#11
It's been very successful in our small city.
hunter
8 hrs ago
#12
That happened in our town
Deep State Witch
8 hrs ago
#14
If the Biden Admin thinks it's promising, it probably is.
gulliver
7 hrs ago
#15
What a great idea. This is something that is badly needed , those empty commercial buildings
Autumn
7 hrs ago
#16
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babylonsister (Original post)
The idea that many (hundreds) thousands of people all get up in the morning at the same time, all then drive or ride to converge on the same place at the same time - and then do it again in a few hours is insane. I guess this was a long winded way to say that the "morning commute" that I did for 25 years was inefficient and unhealthy. If asked by my corporate masters to do it again I will leave and won't look back. Not doing that again.
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LuvLoogie
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babylonsister (Original post)
And low income housing is integrated.
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leftstreet
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LuvLoogie (Reply #5)
We don't need more money shoveled to private contractors with no oversight
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Deep State Witch
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babylonsister (Original post)
There are some difficulties with converting office space to housing. First and foremost is the plumbing. Instead of having one or two set of restrooms per floor, plus possibly a break room with a sink, you need to have to run bathroom and kitchen plumbing for each individual unit. Electrical isn't as bad, because you have a lot of electrical outlets. Also, HVAC systems are designed for large rooms of cubicles, not individual units. Not saying that it can't be done. It's just that it takes a whole lot of money to totally revamp the infrastructure of office buildings.
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mtngirl47
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Deep State Witch (Reply #6)
the parking is there and people living there will certainly support new and existing downtown businesses. Recycling is good.
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Deep State Witch
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mtngirl47 (Reply #8)
It's just that I saw a news article about it a few weeks ago, where they talked about converting some of the empty DC office buildings into housing, and they discussed the issues. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/analysis-heres-what-it-would-take-to-turn-empty-office-buildings-into-residential-housing
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Deep State Witch (Reply #6)
Like the boarding houses of the last century. It’s not the final home for people, but it would be a stopgap.
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mainer (Reply #10)
a residence, even a dorm or shelter, is much different than an office. you need many more bathrooms, many more showers. by the time you've put in enough to meet the plumbing code, you might as well have built individual units. not to mention kitchens and their range hood exhaust. but, converting office buildings to hotels has been ongoing for a while now - so there's definitely precedent for the work.
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babylonsister (Original post)
Our downtown used to be a place where few people wanted to be after dark, the streets haunted with homeless people, prostitutes, and drug dealers. Now with old office buildings converted to apartments it's become a desirable place to live. High speed internet is part of that equation. Our local shopping mall is dominated by a defunct "anchor store." There are plans to tear that down and convert the land, including much of the parking lot, to affordable housing. I think this will be a positive development for the remaining mall and our city in general. People enjoy living in neighborhoods where they can walk to restaurants, shops, and theaters. My children and some of their cousins live in such places.
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hunter (Reply #12)
I live in a suburb of DC. Our old mall was decrepit and literally falling down. They knocked it down and built up a multi-use "Town Center" with apartments, grocery store, a theater, and shopping/restaurant area. Now it's a vital part of the town.
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babylonsister (Original post)
I wonder what successful commercial real estate developers (and other commercial real estate developers like Trump) think of this idea. It does seem like a win-win.
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are everywhere. I hope that the government will keep them and rent them out. Or sell them reasonable like little condos.
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White House announces push to convert empty commercial buildings to housing. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4278387-white-house-converting-commercial-buildings-housing/ Hide Ads. Info View thread info, including edit history Trash Put this thread in your Trash Can (My Stuff » Trash Can) Bookmark Add this thread to your Bookmarks (My Stuff » Bookmarks) 17 replies, 695 views. Share Get links to this post and/or share on social media Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Reply Reply to this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Rec (38) Reply Reply to this post. Hide Ads. 17 replies = new reply since forum marked as read. Highlight: None Don't highlight anything 5 newest Highlight 5 most recent replies Recommended Highlight replies with 5 or more recommendations. White House announces push to convert empty commercial buildings to housing (Original Post) babylonsister. 11 hrs ago. OP. This is great! AntivaxHunters. 11 hrs ago. #1. I love this idea, hope it gets off the ground. 617Blue. 11 hrs ago. #2. Excellent idea. underpants. 11 hrs ago. #3. My wife said this many years ago. OLDMDDEM. 11 hrs ago. #4. As long as private equity is banned from it. LuvLoogie. 10 hrs ago. #5. +1. leftstreet. 9 hrs ago. #9. Some Difficulties. Deep State Witch. 9 hrs ago. #6. True, but the building is there and. mtngirl47. 9 hrs ago. #8. Not saying that it's not. Deep State Witch. 8 hrs ago. #13. Dormitories with shared bathrooms. mainer. 9 hrs ago. #10. even then. maxsolomon. 7 hrs ago. #17. This is very good. William769. 9 hrs ago. #7. Excellent! niyad. 8 hrs ago. #11. It's been very successful in our small city. hunter. 8 hrs ago. #12. That happened in our town. Deep State Witch. 8 hrs ago. #14. If the Biden Admin thinks it's promising, it probably is. gulliver. 7 hrs ago. #15. What a great idea. This is something that is badly needed , those empty commercial buildings. Autumn. 7 hrs ago. #16. Hide Ads. AntivaxHunters. (3,089 posts) babylonsister (Original post) Top Back to the top of the page Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Share Get links to this post Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Recommend Recommend this post Reply Reply to this post. 617Blue. (997 posts) babylonsister (Original post) The idea that many (hundreds) thousands of people all get up in the morning at the same time, all then drive or ride to converge on the same place at the same time - and then do it again in a few hours is insane. I guess this was a long winded way to say that the "morning commute" that I did for 25 years was inefficient and unhealthy. If asked by my corporate masters to do it again I will leave and won't look back. Not doing that again. Top Back to the top of the page Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Share Get links to this post Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Recommend Recommend this post Reply Reply to this post. underpants. (179,360 posts) babylonsister (Original post) Top Back to the top of the page Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Share Get links to this post Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Recommend Recommend this post Reply Reply to this post. OLDMDDEM. (1,450 posts) babylonsister (Original post) Top Back to the top of the page Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Share Get links to this post Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Recommend Recommend this post Reply Reply to this post. LuvLoogie. (6,578 posts) babylonsister (Original post) And low income housing is integrated. Top Back to the top of the page Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Share Get links to this post Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Recommend Recommend this post Reply Reply to this post. leftstreet. (35,628 posts) LuvLoogie (Reply #5) We don't need more money shoveled to private contractors with no oversight. Top Back to the top of the page Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Share Get links to this post Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Recommend Recommend this post Reply Reply to this post. Deep State Witch. (9,772 posts) babylonsister (Original post) There are some difficulties with converting office space to housing. First and foremost is the plumbing. Instead of having one or two set of restrooms per floor, plus possibly a break room with a sink, you need to have to run bathroom and kitchen plumbing for each individual unit. Electrical isn't as bad, because you have a lot of electrical outlets. Also, HVAC systems are designed for large rooms of cubicles, not individual units. Not saying that it can't be done. It's just that it takes a whole lot of money to totally revamp the infrastructure of office buildings. Top Back to the top of the page Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Share Get links to this post Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Recommend Recommend this post Reply Reply to this post. mtngirl47. (964 posts) Deep State Witch (Reply #6) the parking is there and people living there will certainly support new and existing downtown businesses. Recycling is good. Top Back to the top of the page Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Share Get links to this post Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Recommend Recommend this post Reply Reply to this post. Deep State Witch. (9,772 posts) mtngirl47 (Reply #8) It's just that I saw a news article about it a few weeks ago, where they talked about converting some of the empty DC office buildings into housing, and they discussed the issues. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/analysis-heres-what-it-would-take-to-turn-empty-office-buildings-into-residential-housing. Top Back to the top of the page Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Share Get links to this post Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Recommend Recommend this post Reply Reply to this post. mainer. (11,961 posts) Deep State Witch (Reply #6) Like the boarding houses of the last century. It’s not the final home for people, but it would be a stopgap. Top Back to the top of the page Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Share Get links to this post Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Recommend Recommend this post Reply Reply to this post. maxsolomon. (31,747 posts) mainer (Reply #10) a residence, even a dorm or shelter, is much different than an office. you need many more bathrooms, many more showers. by the time you've put in enough to meet the plumbing code, you might as well have built individual units. not to mention kitchens and their range hood exhaust. but, converting office buildings to hotels has been ongoing for a while now - so there's definitely precedent for the work. Top Back to the top of the page Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Share Get links to this post Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Recommend Recommend this post Reply Reply to this post. William769. (54,087 posts) babylonsister (Original post) Top Back to the top of the page Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Share Get links to this post Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Recommend Recommend this post Reply Reply to this post. niyad. (106,694 posts) babylonsister (Original post) Top Back to the top of the page Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Share Get links to this post Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Recommend Recommend this post Reply Reply to this post. hunter. (37,800 posts) babylonsister (Original post) Our downtown used to be a place where few people wanted to be after dark, the streets haunted with homeless people, prostitutes, and drug dealers. Now with old office buildings converted to apartments it's become a desirable place to live. High speed internet is part of that equation. Our local shopping mall is dominated by a defunct "anchor store." There are plans to tear that down and convert the land, including much of the parking lot, to affordable housing. I think this will be a positive development for the remaining mall and our city in general. People enjoy living in neighborhoods where they can walk to restaurants, shops, and theaters. My children and some of their cousins live in such places. Top Back to the top of the page Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Share Get links to this post Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Recommend Recommend this post Reply Reply to this post. Deep State Witch. (9,772 posts) hunter (Reply #12) I live in a suburb of DC. Our old mall was decrepit and literally falling down. They knocked it down and built up a multi-use "Town Center" with apartments, grocery store, a theater, and shopping/restaurant area. Now it's a vital part of the town. Top Back to the top of the page Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Share Get links to this post Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Recommend Recommend this post Reply Reply to this post. gulliver. (12,867 posts) babylonsister (Original post) I wonder what successful commercial real estate developers (and other commercial real estate developers like Trump) think of this idea. It does seem like a win-win. Top Back to the top of the page Alert Alert this post for a rule violation Share Get links to this post Powers There are no powers you can use on this post. Edit Cannot edit other people's posts Recommend Recommend this post Reply Reply to this post. Autumn. (43,661 posts) babylonsister (Original post) are everywhere. I hope that the government will keep them and rent them out. Or sell them reasonable like little condos. 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